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Hi All,
I have been their client for 6 years and trust me it has been the worst experience ever. Even right now I am with their customer support for 2+ hours and they keep screwing around. These people in Phillipines dont know much, they try to be very helpful though. Problem is you can not talk to anyone in Utah or America ever.
Ask me anything directly at ordersatgp@yahoo.com and tell you all the problems you WILL face with them.
I attended the semilar in Seattle, WA in September 2010.
I have to pay $99.00 for a 5″ free notebook that locked up when serving the internet. It’s a piece of junk from space.
$6000.00 is a lot of money to start your own business online. Why make your own website, use Ebay it’s a lot cheaper. I’m glad I didn’t buy the pro or whatever from this company. Note: You have only 3 days to cancel which the SOL consultant didn’t even mention to me.
i went to the seminar to see what it was about… i knew they were going to try and sell me something… now i got a question.. is the “workshop” a class that teaches you stuff about web marketing or is it a sales pitch then ENTIRE DAY… i personally build websites already on my own and use free open source online store software that has great management, super easy to use and you just have to have a little bit of knowledge on how to install it… i currently have 3 of the stores running.. sounds like they are convincing people who have no knowledge of online stores or computers that they can provide easy everyday user friendly software for a heavy fee… but the truth is that there is a low cost way of doing this.. check it out http://www.zen-cart.com/ .. 6000 is to much for any website.. especially for beginners in that field of work.. i usually do the whole design and setup for $1000 and show the user how to run the online store…they are charging $6000 and making you build the site yourself…. im not promoting my business on here … i’m not even giving out my info.. i’m just saying you don’t need something like this … sounds like its just a really expensive hosting service…support your local web builders and have them make it for you for a fraction of what these people are trying to charge you.
zen-cart also got an “F” by the BBB though. Did you see that?
I posted this before but it needs to be repeated. I talked to someone at the Federal Trade Commission and they informed me that if they get enough complaints it might attract the attention of one or more of the attorneys that have access to their database. The more complaints to them the better chance of this happening. FILE YOUR COMPLAINT TODAY WITH THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION. I DID.
Erika, it would be very helpful if you would post the entire info to file a complaint with the FTC. I’m game. Where did you file your complaint, what address, or email address, and was it to anyone’s attention.
This info would be helpful so we can bombard the agency at one address. It would make more of an impact.
If the FTC receives enough, even if they find that it is not within their department, they would be forced to forward it to the proper agency to investigate. The more investigating SOL the better.
Thanks and have a nice day.
went to the free lunch (not that great!), and was wandering when the mp3 player will arrive at my house? can anyone answer this for me?
If you went for the MP3 player – you’ll undoubtedly be disappointed but it does arrive in about 6-8 weeks
StoresOnline is a criminal fraud. We expended much to go to their Wisconsin seminar and were not admitted by their first name: “Mark, last name: “refused” at the Brookfield Suites, on 10/02/10.
They required a “business card” from us, but not from others, allowed others in with blue jeans (but not us); further, the “gift” MP3 player is not “free,” as depicted, and the whole “online stores” offer seems to be a fraud. They won’t even use any, much less their real, name on their advertising and invitation. They are rated “F” by the Better Business Bureau.
They intentionally use people whose English cannot be understood to make their representations and give their instructions to attend the meeting, so that StoresOnline can claim that they can reject ANYONE for some reason not understood, or understandable, by the invitee. Those who get invitations to future website development seminars by an unnamed company should go armed with petitions to solicit attendees to join our lawsuit.
I think, at one time, they were a publicly-traded company, located south of Salt Lake, in Utah, the home of almost as many scams as Texas. They need to be banned in ALL states and a large compensatory amount needs to be recovered by those who were defrauded of the investment of their time and money.
All who are interested in joining a fraud, civil, and combined criminal lawsuit against StoresOnline, “Mark,” and all others representing them, and aiding and abetting their fraud, by renting them space, please reply to me at mrgvae@ymail.com
I had the same problem as Chris. I paid $99 for 2 of us to attend the 1 day workshop and get the netbook. But my first time clicking on Internet Explorer, I got an error message and now I am unable to access ANYTHING on the netbook. More like NetCRAP.
I purchased Stores Online and I am pleased with the service and the results I’m getting. Don’t be disillusioned by your own fantasy of having someone magically giving you a successful online business. Stores Online gives you all the tools and support to do it, but you have to work and apply yourself. Most of these people that are bad mouthing the company did not apply themselves and did not read the material given them. Like anything you have to work hard and stick to it, in order to make results happen.
You need to be serious about what you are trying to achieve with this service.
And you need more money Christopher. Something they neglect to tell you before you spend 5G.
If it sounds to good to be true, it is. I went to a meeting just for the free stuff and have not recieved anything yet. Even if I do I am sure it will be cheap crap! By the way the people on here defending SOL work there. Why the hell else would they waste their time? I called the company about the free stuff and was on hold for 11/2. That’s bull, I just put the phone on speaker and started cleaning. They got nothing from me but a little time.
All who keep claimimg that people defending SOL are employees are wanting to believe that nonsense just so they can reinforce their own belief that their failures are a result of a scam and not their own inactivity. Folks it is very easy to research the owners of these web sites to see they are truly just SOL customers with desire and ambition and they realize the fastest route to failure is doing nothing. I am a pipefitter/welder by trade but for the last 6 years I have become a web master using several different shopping carts. I have experience using Prostores, Storesonline, X-cart, and Interspire. The best shopping cart program for me is Interspire but their customer support is very bad compared to SOL. SOL’s shopping cart is not very Google friendly but no matter what the people tell you here, their customer support is better than any of the rest. You can call me an employee, I don’t care, but you are just deluding your own mind. There are thousands of SOL web site owners who do not have the complaints as you see in this forum. I post in many forums and yes occassionally I make time to answer a few posts in here just to help keep the balance as much as I can. This forum is a collection of the most likely to fail at any business, online or off and some posts are not even worth answering. The folks who gripe about the “piece of crap” Ipod or that just went for a free meal are the lowest in here, If a person went to a sales seminar just for a free meal and cheap Ipod then you can rest assured that person has not the desire or will to attempt anything seriously. What a waste of time.
William,
I cannot find thousands of people with SOL websites. In fact most of the people that are on sol’s website as poster people, giving sol the thumbs up, aren’t even using sol to power their site anymore. They are old news and if you go to the testimonial site there is only one comment for the whole year of 2010. On the other hand I can find thousands of people complaining!
OK, I do NOT work for SOL, I work at building my website. I am not now, and never have been employed by them or any of their various entities, nor has anyone in my family.
My husband and I attended a free seminar in Southern Oregon on Aug.20, 2010 at a good hotel, had a nice lunch, and paid 99.00 for the upcoming workshop. I sent in the paperwork for the mp3 player the next day, and kept copies. I received the player about 2 weeks ago, it’s tiny, and does not seems to work well, but I don’t care, it was free, and I’ll put it in a garage sale for a buck.
We attended the workshop on Aug. 31, and it was, indeed, a sales pitch as expected. BUT, it was what we were looking for, and yes, I had been to this site already and read alot of reviews. We paid cash for the Pro package, got a $500 discount, and received a nice new Acer netbook, which works great.
I am building the site myself, and am just about ready to open. I am very impressed with the customer service folks, despite the occasional language barrier (I have found that if you call later in the day during their hours, you are more likely to get a native english-speaker, I usually call around 4:30 PST). I call them anywhere from 1 to 10 times a week. The time I am saving as a first-time builder is worth the cost, TO ME.
I came into this knowing it would be alot of work on my part, I now have 5 dropshippers, and am deciding which processor to use, then I can open! I’ve been spending an average of about 50 hours a week since Sept. 1st doing research on dropshippers, products, etc, and building the site itself…but I’m real close! They would have built it for me within 90 days, but I really wanted to do the work and learn the program, only makes sense.
Anyway, for my 2 cents worth, if you put the work in, it’s worth it! I came back here after trying SOL out because I wanted to put in my opinion – thanks for reading.
YEA! You go girl! I agree – it’s an enormous amount of work but whether it’s my first site or 2nd or 3rd – it spells freedom to me.
BTW my first site i am using ECI but am thinking that the second I’m going to use PayPal and Google checkout and see how it goes – I’m finding many people prefer PayPal
O and on the mp3 player, no shipping and handling was asked, just a stamp to mail the forms, we each got one, but they are junk.
All who keep claimimg that people defending SOL are employees are wanting to believe that nonsense just so they can reinforce their own belief that their failures are a result of a scam and not their own inactivity. Folks it is very easy to research the owners of these web sites to see they are truly just SOL customers with desire and ambition and they realize the fastest route to failure is doing nothing. I am a pipefitter/welder by trade but for the last 6 years I have become a web master using several different shopping carts. I have experience using Prostores, Storesonline, X-cart, and Interspire. The best shopping cart program for me is Interspire but their customer support is very bad compared to SOL. SOL’s shopping cart is not very Google friendly but no matter what the people tell you here, their customer support is better than any of the rest. You can call me an employee, I don’t care, but you are just deluding your own mind. There are thousands of SOL web site owners who do not have the complaints as you see in this forum. I post in many forums and yes occassionally I make time to answer a few posts in here just to help keep the balance as much as I can. This forum is a collection of the most likely to fail at any business, online or off and some posts are not even worth answering. The folks who gripe about the “piece of crap” Ipod or that just went for a free meal are the lowest in here, If a person went to a sales seminar just for a free meal and cheap Ipod then you can rest assured that person has not the desire or will to attempt anything seriously. What a waste of time.
William, there are not thousands, as you say, SOL customer websites. Even the people they have in their online testomonial section are not all SOL customers anymore. As far as I see only six of them are. The few hundred, and that’s being generous, that have managed to build a web site using SOL product package have broke away from them and use other sources to power their site. Diane, the woman who sells maps, might as well be considered an employee since SOL pays her to present her story. Do your homework, and know what you are talking about, before insinuating that people who have ligitamit complaints are the most likely to fail. Check out iMerchant’s memo’s and quarterly income reports. Their objective is in sales and is focused on strategically increasing their net dollar revenue towards the sale of the more exspensive Pro Package to cash paying customers. That was 51.1 million in Sept 08 and the long term receivables for financed contracts was 31 million. And, that doesn’t include the interest made which is somewhere around 17 million! So why don’t you take your mindless comments to some other forum because, it is reading yours, that is the only waste of time around here.
Let me say this.
This is a fail.
The did not follow up through with alot of things. They said they would teach us the “manual” way to do SEO and what not. Well, it was ALL ABOUT stores online. ALL ABOUT IT. EVERYTHING the marketing, the SEO, the programming, the service, was within THEIR BOUNDS. For 100 bucks though. Here’s what it did do. It let us know what we needed to do. (Without their service) To run an online business. And to say the least, the laptop was decent. (Plays music, videos, and web. Say the least. It works pretty well for a portable device.) The MP3’s (Which to my surprise DID COME) were handy for workouts at the gym. (The mp3 I have is a gigantic palm sized mp3. I would rather not carry it. lol) Was it worth my money for 100 bucks? I suppose so for the freebies! Did it do everything? NO. Is it shady? OH YES. Was the pressure on? OH MY YES. Is it a scam? YES AND NO. From what I’ve heard, they give you stuff, but it’s broken. I don’t pay for broken items. ;o Anyway. peace.
Btw, im 17. I’m a young gun, and I can smell trouble a mile away.
Stores online is the bigest piece of shit of a company. My mother and I went to the first seminar and it was very interesting. We bought the basic package, and they said if we go to the second seminar then they would have one on one time to help us with our wesite. So then it was my sister and I who went to the second seminar, and the whole time they were only talking about the 6000 dollar package and what we would get from that. they did not say anything about the basic package. when we had our one on one time with one of the workers, his only goal was that we bought the 6000 dollar packge. after he realized that we were not going to buy it he was a total douche bag and said that my sister’s idea of what she was trying to sell (handmade jewelry) was a product that no one would sell. BTW, his name was TODD. so if you ever meet anyone who works for Stores Online and his name is TODD, you should kick him in the balls. or kick anyone who works with stores online in the balls because they all suck dick.
So the rest of the seminar my sister and i were drawing picturesabout Todd being hit by a truck and eaten by a bear and such.
Attending this is a total waste of time and definitely a waste of money. I highly suggest that you just pay someone else to build your website for you if that’s what you are having a problem with.
I was researching StoresOnline for my elderly neighbor and her friend…. Thank God for sites like this. I am quite sure that they would have spent approximately $4,000 this Thursday at a seminar in Long Beach. After failing to find any positive comments about this company anywhere, I then went to the BBB and did a search on them using their address in Orem, Utah and low and behold they have a rating of “F”, which of course, is as bad as it gets. The BBB site shows over 800 complaints, Attorney General filings and lots of other bad stuff. People, please do your research before you spend your hard-earned money. Good Luck and God Bless!
I had a reserved seat and a ticket to go to a SOL Training Conference at the Pacific Beach Hotel tonight. I’m so glad I googled them before wasting my time. Thank you for all who posted their experiences with this company. I hope all of Hawaii will do their research before attending this, too. Thought I would go for a free dinner and an mp3 but realize now it is not worth the 2-3 hours of my time. Aloha all!
Sometimes i said that big all natural boobs point would rub against the gut.
Just Googled “Storesonline” to find out the scoop on the company that just sent me these tickets. I find it amusing and ironic that many of you refer to them as “SOL”, given the typical meaning one is implying when saying someone is indeed “SOL!” I guess snake-oil has always existed, and will always exist. The thing that bothers me most is that those who most often purchase snake-oil are usually quite desperate, ignorant, or both. I would not want to have to answer in the “next life” for having taken advantage of anyone, let alone those in that state. The other troubling detail is that I noticed that the company address is in Orem, Utah. I am speculating that the founders and operators are therefore very likely “members” of the religion that my wife and children subscribe to; that is really too bad. It reminds me of the guy I worked for in the Seattle area in 1998, at the peak of the stock market frenzy. He belonged to the same church, which certainly espouses honesty! He promoted and sold seminars for “Wall Street” strategies. In my opinion, he was a weasel. I won’t use his real name; I’ll call him “Walt Chef.” I understand “Walt” is now in prison.
BBB on Storesonline Inc: bbb.org/utah/business-reviews/training-program-companies/storesonline-in-orem-ut-2000585
I feel that Storesonline is a rip off and I wish that I never got roped into something that is not paying off. They are liars and steal your money. They make it so easy and that it isn’t cost you an arm and leg. They are so wrong!
Stores Online is weak in disclosing all the details necessary at the seminar required to launch an ebiz with their software package. whatever they try to sell you, you can easily get through any web design company that coast a fraction off the least expensive course they offer and what’s really ironic is they try to teach you to be on page one on the major search engine such google and yahoo and they are not on page one in any off these search engine. they are big scammmmmm !!!
I don’t work for SOL and I say it’s not a scam. It is expensive, I do keep having to spend more money on advertising, marketing, business set up, tax advisors, etc. But…..have you every heard the saying “if you want to make money, you have to spend money”? It’s true! All the things I have spent money on thus far are things that I would have spent money on anyway if I were starting a business on my own. StoresOnline has given me great service, they have programmed my first website, they have given me great training, they have followed-up with me every step of the way. I think that they have been up front about everything. They have never claimed that you are going to get rich quickly, they have never claimed “if you build it, they will come”. They have said all along that you have to work at this and keep working at it. I read some of these posts and I wonder if these people are talking about the same company. Cuz, my experience has been very positive with StoresOnline. Yeah, I’ve spent a lot of money, but that’s what happens when you start a business. Go figure!
Since your experience with SOL has been positive, would you be willing to give the rest of us some idea of how much money you are making from your website that is hosted by them? Granted, I haven’t read every post on this page but I haven’t seen one person state how much they have benefitted monetarily, only how much money they have invested. I’m still looking for a success story.
That’s called stroking you. As long as you keep giving money to SOL they will keep “helping” you.
The bottom line is you are spending all this money, but are you making any?????????????
Stores on line are currently holding workshops in Oklahoma. I strongly urge people not to rush to give their credit card information to Stores on line.DON’T BUY-DON’T SIGN.Don’t be fooled by the professional motivational speakers they hire to get your money.
I have been to the “meetings” as they are referred to in here. Now i don’t program computers or anything so if you have to be that smart, guess this wouldn’t be for me. The thing i have noticed a lot on here is people saying it is a scam because it didn’t work for them…. Just out of curiosity…. have you ever looked into starting any business? 95 to 98% of all businesses fail in the first 90 days. You get taught that much in High School. After the first 90 days if you are still in business 50% of those still fail in the next 2 years. And if you make it past that point, only 10% of all businesses that have been around for 2 years will last 10 or more years.
Now, without ever being a part of this SOL business i can say if you didn’t make it in your first 2 years, I’m sorry. Complain to the United States Government and require that they give you the money THEY promised you for starting your own business and use it to try and further your business. If you aren’t willing to do this… Then you never really wanted to succeed at this and you are just blowing smoke.
I know you have to invest a lot of time and effort into a business to get it up and going. And if SOL can give me 1 (one) piece of information i can use to further myself or my company it is well worth $50….$100 or even $1000 or more. If their teaching can bring me $1 a month for the rest of my life its worth every penny paid out.
Scott. i have to say that according to your numbers alone that means for every 1000 bussinesses started that only one makes it past 10 yrs, and only 10 will make it past 90 days?? i dont know where you get you figures from but have to say that those seem a little off. unless you take into account the many ppl that this company scams and get to try the bussiness out to start. Sorry however if you dont make it one month you should not be included in that figure.
They teach this in high school business class.
I am looking to see if I can find anyone else in Colorado that fell for StoresOnline, I was hoping that If there were enough of us out there, we might be able to get a lawsuit filed as well.
I am from MN. Is there a reason why we cannot file together? -For a Class Action suit? They are an internet business and they are getting us everywhere. I am looking for people also.
I just know that many states have filed the suits, and I contacted my state attorney general, and they told me that if there were enough complaints against storesonline, that they then could pursue charges. I don’t know how it would work being in seperate states. You would think that there would be a way though, because you are right, they are getting people all over the country!
I have a client who has a sister and she paid these con-artists 25,000.00 for a site she has not made one penny on. The sad part of that story she is still paying a monthly fee to maintain it. I told her to find a lawyer and sue them. I had been to one of the events they held once, An older women that we know told me she got an invite in the mail and wanted to see what it was all about, so I went along with her. I tried to warn as many people as I could in the crowd. I had heard about them from a guitar builder that put 5000.00 into their crooked little hands. These people are real pro. rip off artists who target people who know nothing about making money online. I just wonder what kind of a system they use to find and bring the people in? I mean how do they find there target market?
The fact is you can do somthing very similiar to the services they are offering through yahoo or any other hosting service for around 20-30 a month with no contracts. These people have found a way to take advantage of hardworking honest poeple who know little or nothing about doing business online and feel they need educated. This company proivdes little to no support has hidden costs and the prices they do charge are simply out ragous and immorale.
Gee, I am so looking forward to the initial conference that I have scheduled for Thursday. I can’t believe I have spent the last 2+ hours reading posts and skimming through this page. Luckily, I found this site BEFORE I went so I have a pretty good idea what to expect. I am still going to attend because I am having no luck with my traditional job search and am open to running a home-based business. I am hopeful this exposure will open my mind to new possibilities. So what lessons have I learned today? First of all, I am going leave my credit cards at home, or at least in my car. It sounds like the second full-day workshop that costs $99 is really just an opportunity for them to pressure you into purchasing a package from them. I know how tough these one-on-one closers can be. I have also learned not to expect much from the MP3 player and I have already given up on any hope of a free netbook. I knew that when I made the reservation and when I inquired was told that she did not know if I was one of the first 50 callers. Of all of the many posts that I read, I didn’t see one that mentioned a dollar amount that a member has actually made through this company. Not even the supporters of SOL are willing to state how well they’re doing or if they’ve made back their investment. My observation is that there are many more people that have had a negative experience with SOL and that says alot. I’ll check back after I attend the 90 minute conference.
Wondering where you are at, your post is on the same day I am posting…only you at 11:02pm and I at 9:30 pm. Must be somewhere in middle America.
First off, the free notebook does not exist. You have to purchase one of there software packages to get one. So the lady on the phone, as well as the invitation, is fraudulant. I am one that was scammed into buying their product, by means of being misled and lied to. I tried to get my money back one day too late. I tried to convince them of it being in the best interest of us all, only if they refund my money. No dice.
I can only hope to save others from making this same mistake, and try to shut them down. As soon as I get done with this post I am looking into contacting DateLine. Screw SOL for preying on otherwise hardworking people, who just want to make a living in this already devastating day!
And, then I’m going to sue them, for not backing their own product in the way they claimed they would. Misrepresentation, misleading the public and fraud.
The IRS once forgave me for not paying my taxes. It was during a time, after having been diagnosed with cancer, that I could hardly take care of myself and was still trying to maintain a dog grooming business. I couldn’t do everything so I wrote and explained my reason for not filing and needed the money for medical reason. A matter of survival, and they forgave me. Not only did I not get penalized…I didn’t pay taxes that year, either.
SOL should have something similar in place for the ones that are in over their heads and stand to loose alot more than the money they invested in. Something lured into looking like a way out…then realizing it’s taking them under!
If they have a product and services as good as they make it look and sound, they should at the least, have a 30 or 45 day trail period. Just to see if they do what they say they will and if the consumer can follow.
I am in Califonia and I posted at around 9:00 PM. The netbook promotion I am referring to is one they have where if you are one of the first 50 callers to register and attend the first 90 minute conference you’ll get a voucher for a netbook by mail. Since there’s no way for me to know if I qualify it would be really easy for them to say “sorry you didn’t qualify”. I was amused by an earlier poster who was happy to have received an Acer netbook after paying the $6000 for their Pro package, or whatever they call it. You can buy these name-brand netbooks all day long at most electronics retailers for around $250 and I’ve seen their cheapie on ebay for around $100.
Update – Today I attended the 90 minute conference in CA and it was not as bad as I had expected. It was actually quite informative. Alot of useful information was covered that may be of use if I decide to pursue something in e- commerce. There was absolutely no high-pressure sales whatsoever. Perhaps that takes place at the all-day training that is offered for $99. I will say that the presenter disclosed the StoresOnline Pro retail price of $3600 and discussed the hosting & support price of $24.95 per month. He also mentined there will be additional special workshop offers available to those that attend the $99 training. He said “StoresOnline is not a perfect company” and touched on some of the negative comments made by past customers. I would have to say that based on this initial presentation by SOL they are pretty up front about what they charge for their service and what you can expect to pay to maintain their service. I opted not to register for the all-day tarining. Perhaps if I were to attend that session I would then have a different impression of them. I am trying to be objective and only comment on my experience. I would have to say they are good at what they do because I actually sat in my car afterwards and thought I may have made a mistake by not signing up. I convinced myself that there will certainly be another conference if I should change my mind.
That’s called deceptive advertizing, incouraging a higher rate of attendance and potential buyers.
I’m referring to the free notebook offered to first 50 callers.
Hey I’m in Texas and just signed up today, I’m looking forward to “talking” with these guys March 1st. Believe me, I can smell scam, but I like to play with my food.
I am one of the gullible ones who actually purchased a basic package and spent 6 months paying it off. Now I’m so absolutely frustrated with their templates that I’m about ready to throw my computer out the window. I find that the quick response staff are really good, but the templates and restrictions are awful, not to mention your paying $30/month to host it. and that’s for each site not just one. Im sorry but for that amount plus the cost of the package and for some reason know one can tell me why it is not possible to have all your thumbnail images on the home page the same size, is beyond me. I had that will my 8 dollars webs.com site
Thanks for this great resource. I was considering this company but was suspicious. I ended up just using an out of the box software program and am very pleased with the result. It is called x-cart and we used it for our Office Supplies web site. It requires some help to install if you have no experience but it works quite well.
If 80 percent of the people on here are saying SOL is a reap off and and 20 percent are trying to prove a point by saying SOL is legit,for the 20 percent,how stupid can you get? don’t you think grown folks know when they get ripped off by a scam company like SOL,how much did they pay you guys to stick up for them,or are you guys related to people that work for SOL.I guess you are just trying to help loved ones retain their jobs at SOL at the expense of peoples hard earned money.Is there anyway i can get my money back? are the cases already in PA. If there are please contact me on jukpie@gmail.com or call 717-460-6049
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Hi There, you have a really nice sight. I like the way it is set up, easy and simple to follow… Did yahoo build it for you, or did you do it yourself? I don’t know how any of this works, thought I did spend 5,000 in hopes of having spent enough to learn. Unfortunately the only thing I learned is that I don’t trust SOL and now, thanks to them, I will find it difficult to let the guard down with anyone else.
Wow, hours of reading & I am finally at the end, ready to post my own opinion/experience. I have 5 other tabs open on my browser, all pertaining to Storesonline (SOL).
My partner & I attended the 90 minute seminar today, 11/30/2010 in West Palm Beach, Florida. 90 minutes turned into nearly 2 hours by the time we were done & ready to leave.
We received our lunch & mail in vouchers for the MP3. BTW, if you READ THE FINE PRINT (for those who received the seminar info in your mail box) , you’d realize it says right on the flier that you’ll receive a MAIL-IN coupon/voucher for the MP3 player!
Our lunch, as many have stated, consisted of Turkey on a croissant w cheese, lettuce & tomato… side of some KICK ASS potato salad, 3 slices of fruit (pineapple, honeydew & cantaloupe) & two hearty chocolate chip cookies. It was a very good lunch to be honest.
We handed over our CC for the $99.00 deal, received our package w information about our SOL Subscription.
We plan to attend the all day seminar on Dec. 14th at the same location. At that time we will receive one Windows CE netbook . I do not know which netbook brand they will be handing out, but I have had experience with a Windows CE notebook that was $99.00.
It is NOTHING worth using as your primary source to the internet. I would say it is not worth purchasing for yourself, as an adult, or for any other adult! However, it is 100% worth the smile on my teenagers face on Xmas morning when he opens his very own laptop!!! We had planned to purchase this said netbook for our teenager anyway.
I have NO INTENTIONS on paying anyone THOUSANDS of dollar$ for anything! Ever!
I do not regret the $99.00 we paid today. I believe it was monies well spent for what my partner & I have/will gain from this experience.
Why you ask?
#1. I had an amazing lunch with my partner.
(spending time with him was amazing, lunch itself was good, but time with him w/o any of our kids at our feet was priceless!)
#2. We have two vouchers for the MP3 players, yes I get they are cheap, but come on what do you expect… something worth $200? I will mail in our vouchers tomorrow & I am very hopeful that we will receive them in a timely manner. Positive thinking!
#3. I am looking forward to spending another (full) day with my partner, having lunch with him, writing little love notes to one another while the speaker is going on & on… & all w/o the kids in tow!
#4. We will walk away with the netbook that we had intentions on buying for our teenager anyway. Done! No vouchers, no waiting & hoping it shows up… we leave WITH IT!
So, for the $99.00 we planned to spend on a netbook at a local store anyway we will receive…..
two MP3 players, the netbook, two free meals, time together in the truck there & back (40 min drive one way) w no little people in the back yelling “mommy, daddy”, time together at the seminar. In this respect, its worth it to us.
I am sorry for everyone who feels they have been taken advantage of but on the lighter side, I am grateful you were brave enough to come HERE & post your story for others to read. Sharing your experience w this company will help others, IF THEY READ THE REVIEWS, from going through the same or similar BS as you have.
they are scam artist they never intended to give the free MP3 players now they are saying a free laptop I plan on blacklisting them big time I have the money and time to do it. don’t think you will get anything from them
Hello Everyone,
Well I am very happy to say I have finally BEAT SOL at their own game. I had been able to file a claim on one of the class action law suits in Utah.
SOL wanted to give me a $390.00 credit which I would have had to use for their products.
Of course that would be of no use since they never completed my website and it never got published and after two years they pulled the plug on me unless I was willing to spend $29.95 per month to let them keep building my site, which I wasn’t. I figured I wanted to cut my loses at $7722.00 and not invest one more dime with this scam company.
But I did file complaints with the Attorney Generals in both Florida and Utah.
When I received the offer of $390 from SOL I declined and filed an appeal. I provided documentation to prove all the hours spent on the phone with customer service, technicians etc, trying to get my site built. SOL had claimed my site was published. I found out they did publish it and charged my credit card which was unauthorized by me. I also included that in my evidence package. It seems that if your website is published it gives SOL the edge. I proved they published it on their own. My site did not even have a shopping cart so why would I publish my site. How could anyone buy anything? What purpose would a site in that condition serve?
After nearly six months the appeal decision came in the mail today. Here’s what it says:
Upon Consideration of the claim, SOL determined that Alan fell into Category 3, that group of Claimants who could document that they spent at least 10 to 15 hours trying to use SPL’s product and actually activated a website, and thus were entitled to a credit of $390 to be used as payment for SOL to build not more than two websites for the Claimant.
Alan vehemently and credibly denies activating a website. The proof submitted in his well documented appeal is convincing, and I conclude the website was activated without his knowledge and he promptly and properly acted to deactive the site. Given all the facts and circumstances and evidence, I find Alan’s denial credible. He spent at least 37 hours hourking with and trying to use SOL’s product, at least 12 of which were with customer service. Alan is entitled to a cash refund of $1,254.00.
Upon review of the facts and circumstances in this case as presented to the Arbitrator, the Arbitrator finds the determination of SOL was incorrect. Thus, the appeal of Alan must be granted.
IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED, ADJUDGED AND DECREED, based upon the facts and circumstances related to the claim of Alan and the equities, that the determination of SOL concerning Alan’s claim be, and it is hereby, reversed. Alan is entitled to a cash refund of $1,254.00.
Hello Everyone,
Well I am very happy to say I have finally BEAT SOL at their own game. I had been able to file a claim on one of the class action law suits in Utah.
SOL wanted to give me a $390.00 credit which I would have had to use for their products.
Of course that would be of no use since they never completed my website and it never got published and after two years they pulled the plug on me unless I was willing to spend $29.95 per month to let them keep building my site, which I wasn’t. I figured I wanted to cut my loses at $7722.00 and not invest one more dime with this scam company.
But I did file complaints with the Attorney Generals in both Florida and Utah.
When I received the offer of $390 from SOL I declined and filed an appeal. I provided documentation to prove all the hours spent on the phone with customer service, technicians etc, trying to get my site built. SOL had claimed my site was published. I found out they did publish it and charged my credit card which was unauthorized by me. I also included that in my evidence package. It seems that if your website is published it gives SOL the edge. I proved they published it on their own. My site did not even have a shopping cart so why would I publish my site. How could anyone buy anything? What purpose would a site in that condition serve?
After nearly six months the appeal decision came in the mail today. Here’s what it says:
“Upon Consideration of the claim, SOL determined that Alan fell into Category 3, that group of Claimants who could document that they spent at least 10 to 15 hours trying to use SPL’s product and actually activated a website, and thus were entitled to a credit of $390 to be used as payment for SOL to build not more than two websites for the Claimant.
Alan vehemently and credibly denies activating a website. The proof submitted in his well documented appeal is convincing, and I conclude the website was activated without his knowledge and he promptly and properly acted to deactive the site. Given all the facts and circumstances and evidence, I find Alan’s denial credible. He spent at least 37 hours hourking with and trying to use SOL’s product, at least 12 of which were with customer service. Alan is entitled to a cash refund of $1,254.00.
Upon review of the facts and circumstances in this case as presented to the Arbitrator, the Arbitrator finds the determination of SOL was incorrect. Thus, the appeal of Alan must be granted.
IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED, ADJUDGED AND DECREED, based upon the facts and circumstances related to the claim of Alan and the equities, that the determination of SOL concerning Alan’s claim be, and it is hereby, reversed. Alan is entitled to a cash refund of $1,254.00.
IT IS SO ORDERED that the refund be paid.
ALLEN S. BLAIR, ARBITRATOR
DATE: 11/29/2010″
I am providing this information for the people that feel they were scammed by SOL. You may not get all of your money back but every step is worth a try. This win is my first step.
My next step is to move against VISA and use this and my documentation to support my position that they failed to provide the products and services as stated in their contract.
This email is not intended for the few of you who are satisfied customers of SOL. This is for the rest of us which number in the hundred of thousands all over the world.
Good Luck to all of you. Merry Christmas.
WAY TO GO, ALAN!!! Congradulations!!
Just received my invite today for a free dinner conference in Panama City, FL. After reading both the pros and cons; I will toss this invite in the trash!!!
good thing you threw it away. at the end of the conference is a nice cheap turkey sandwich and a chocolate chip cookie. ooo yea, and $99 they want you to spend to attend another conference
ON DEC 5TH, 2010
Went to SOL seminar today and while I was there I decided to do a little research, glad I came across this web site. Just opened the box to the 7 inch notebook and Shocking!! the adapter does fit the notebook. totally useless.
Went to SOL seminar today and while I was there I decided to do a little research, glad I came across this web site. Just opened the box to the 7 inch notebook and Shocking!! the adapter does fit the notebook.
Thanks for the heads up I just came back from the free training (sales pitch) and thought that for $99 i might learn something The free notebook had some appeal also. I must admit that there was absolutely no value in the training. I learned nothing at all and was not impressed. I will now cancel and not waste my time attending an 8 hour sales pitch. Thanks for the info peoplel.
I just wanted to send a quick message on this particular website article saying that it’s posts like this one that keep me and most likely other people excited about your content and williing to come back often.
Hello all-
I just got home from attending one of these seminars and needless to say I’m glad I didn’t sign up. First of all, the trainer “Derris” was probably the rudest, most unprofessional trainer I’ve ever encountered. He had sarcastic undertones in everything he said and then he had the NERVE to verbally reprimand someone working with him “T.J.” because he gave out the mp3 certificates before he was done strong-arming us. We were at the end of the pointless seminar anyway. He spoke to T.J. as if he was 3 years old, to the horror of everyone there. Then perceeded to tell us why we HAD to purchase the next class for $99.00. Derris the “trainer” needs to go back to training himself because he is a JERK. My mom wanted to apologize to T.J. as we were walking out because we felt sorry for him. Derris’ tactics made this look like a scam before I knew it was a scam.
Hello to everyone here, I have read these posts and just would like to post my own insight to these sales people of SOL. I went to the free dinner and yes got the coupon vouchers to mail in for the Mp3 players. Have not gotten them yet. I took my son with me and he also got a free MP3 voucher to mail in. They then went on to say that only so many of us would get chosen to attend there next meeting. Well they picked me and my son as the first ones and I thought right there why pick us both from the same family and all. I guese they was thinking they was going to get double the price out of us.
Well my son was excited as this all was new to him, he is only 18 years old. I did purchase the $99 package but I did so only to get the free extra training and the free netbook ( I did recieve it there at the end of a VERYYYYY LONG BS OF A DAY.)
I did not learn anything new at all from them, I also asked them how I could transfer the $99.00 free website over to my own hosting site as there hosting package is not worth the $30.00 per month for only 2GB of space stupid price there really.
I was told sorry you can not transfer over the free website unless you upgrade to then own the software etc. Sorry again the $6,000 is NOT worth it. Like others here have said there are other site builder tools out there and some are even free or affordable but not bank breaking.
The only think I worry about is that they ask you for your SS number to run a report on you to help you get financeing for them, and yes I gave them that info along with several CC cards to purchase the first $99.00 package.
Now I will be spending the next few months constantly checking my accounts and my credit reports to make sure nothing gets charged by them.
I also got 2 months of free hosting from them and so I am spending that time to copy all there materials to keep as a learning tool for me, and I got the netbook, and I also have to agree with others it is not a good netbook for adults but yes my teenagers love it so again the $99.00 for 2 free lunchesX2, 2 Mp3 players video ones, and the all day training, and the material learned there, and what is at the site as far as the material etc, Is worth the $99.00.
But I will not stay with them for hosting this site, nor use any of there website builder tools as most of the tools are indeed all over the web and much more up to date to use.
So if you go to the meetings just take it for what it is worth, if you want the netbook and extra free 8 hours worth of training and you are very new to the internet then pay.
But do NOT be foolish like me and give them any CC info, SS numbers, or bank numbers, pay the cash and get a receipt, this is the one time when I would say cash is better then credit to use.
If not then go to the first part get the 1 (x 2 if you bring a guest) free lunch and the MP 3 player and walk away.
But I have a online store else where and I do work at it very hard and most of the stuff they try to tell you at the first meeting is HYPE!!!!!- Stay open minded but also SMART for the most part.
Happy holidays to all.
This post is most refreshing and probably one of the most balanced of all I have read here. I did not read 100% of them and was looking for some that had a similar flavor to how my feelings are, and here it is.
- so it will be my entertainment for the week….2) if I can endure the day, which I hope to, and I get a notebook – I will consider it a blessing (I already have a laptop and a desktop, so my kid will enjoy it) 3) I have read alot of articles on line about enhancing ecommerce and SEO, and I have a basic notion about things but I will enjoy hearing someone address these issues in person and know ahead of time I’m not gonna get a degree at the end of the day 4) hopefully that day’s luncheon will be as nice the one yesterday, again that will be a treat because I seldom get to go out and eat 5) because I do a small amount of ecommerce already, $99 and gas mileage can be deducted on my taxes as business expenses….
I am NOT a stupid person and have been doing some commerce on ebay over the years so I am neither completely naive, nor highly qualified in these matters.
I went to the 90 minute session yesterday and received pretty much what I expected. I am currently unable to work in a standard job, had the time on my hands, don’t get to go out and eat much due to my finances and it’s winter in Western NY….I figured free is pretty cheap entertainment. I learned a few interesting facts. Was a bit more motivated to work on some of the ideas I have been batting around in my head. The speaker was an articulate guy who was straight forward and seemed quite earnest. He spoke of the pros and the cons, albeit with a spin on them — hey that’s what StoresOnline pays him for – he was doing his job! I was there with no illusions or a burning desire for an easy ride. I knew there had to be money involved some how -
The schpiel lasted as long as they said it would, it was in a lovely restaurant and the food was nice and quite filling. If I were a paying customer at that restaurant for that very meal I would likely have been charged no less than $10 – I am appreciative of that – again, due to so many reasons, I thought it was a nice treat —- cheesy would have been a couple slices of warmed frozen pizza and pop!
I didn’t even care about the MP3 player, I was there for information and wondering what else could be offered.
Wisely, they culled the audience to choose “most likely” candidates for the larger session. I am absolutely floored that people went there knowing it was internet marketing related and some of them raised their hands when the guy asked if they never used a computer! Why did they waste their time? Hmmmm, maybe they were grateful for the lovely lunch as well.
It hadn’t occurred to me that the culling process and calling of names of those who were chosen to “be allowed” to sign up for the Buffalo gig, could have been compared to the Price is Right come-on-down analogy, but I am sure that is how it felt for some people. I wasn’t enamored by that either because when they first announced the $99 fee for the all day workshop (which they did before they announced the “culling” process, if I recall correctly) I had already decided to sign up for that. You see, when I attended this session I had concluded prior to going that I would be willing to lop down no more than $100 for whatever they were offering, if I felt I might learn something.
So I got “called down”, paid my $99 (via check so there was a paper trail and reduced opportunity for abuse of my financial info) and received my packet for admission. Now mind you, I live 60 miles from Buffalo, so I will have the further investment of gas, vehicle use and time….I am willing to make these sacrifices for 5 basic reasons…1) it is in February and it will still be WINTER in Western NY – if you don’t ski, it can be a very long season with limited opportunities here
Again, I have no illusions — there is no way even if I DID have much money, that I would lop down a big hunk of it to these people. Anyone who does decide to do that, I hope they make that decision wisely, with forethought and preparation. It blew me away, too, that there were many people at yesterday’s session who didn’t even have a concept of what they’d want to sell on line if they DID have a website……HUH?!?!!?!?
Additionally — anyone reading my post — if you are one of the more balanced writers on this site and know of anyone who DOES have a site thru StoresOnline -=— please post the links to some of them so we can see what they look like, please! I’d love to visit those stores and maybe patronize them.
At yesterday’s session they mentioned the following sites:
http://www.mapbooks4u.com — I was able to access this site and look at a couple of things, I sent a message via the “contact us” link to see if they will answer.
the other site:
http://www.sportsstuff4u.com – I looked at this site and it showed that it was “created by” a Bryan Strober per bryanstrober.com….when trying to message via the “contact us” link — the messaging system didn’t work.
If you would like to email me with sites that DO work and and work as a result of StoresOnline – here’s my email —
sweetcindylouwho@yahoo.com
My name is Ricky i live in Texas of the USA storesonline is a SCAM i asked at the seminars if i was able to use a downloadable music product and they said yes when trying to set up music website i called many times and they said they would call back with solution they would never call back i would keep calling back many of times but they could not help me again i offered to return package they said it was to late after misleading me.
Hey Ricky….USE PUNCTUATION. You look like a scab without it. Also, if you were trying to incorporate music into a website you were making, STOP. 99% of people HATE when they go to some website and some shitty music starts blaring at them.
IF I may also i sent them my bussiness logo by ups mail and after finding out that they lied and was misleading they would not send me my biz logo back after repeatedly talking to a girl name Jennifer and refusing to refund me my money after sending package back a SCAM was definitely what occured with me
Hello Everyone,
I previously posted that I appealed the decision SOL made in my part of the class action lawsuit filed in Utah. The Arbirator sided with me and awarded me $1264.00. I didn’t know how long it would take it get that refund, but I got the check two weeks after the appeal decision.
It’s a far cry from the $7722.00, they got from me before I decided to cut my losses and stop doing business with them.
My next push is with VISA for a Charge Back Dispute.
Keep contacting the attorney generals of your state and Utah. The more you put in writing the better off your are. Just stick to the facts and do not editorialize.
Good Luck to everyone.
You can stop them. Change your account number or cancel the credit card used if you can. There’s a way. They will damage your credit, but if you send a letter to the Credit Bureau, I’m sure they can attach the info provided on your credit report.
I cannot afford to pay, I pay $350 for my medicines, they are life threaten, I cannot live without them.
I thought it was a fear of loss high pressure test. I did find the tools interesting. If any one would like to sell them cheap I might have interest. I won’t pay hundreds for them so when i say cheap i mean cheap. I just want to play around with them
The only reason I know about SOL, (shite out-a luck?) is that I saw in my router logs that the IP 208.187.218.29 had been trying to connect to my network at home. I’ve never heard of SOL or visited their site, nor have I gotten any snailmail from them. Why the hell did they ping my network several several times?? Just out of the blue, one of their computers is pinging me for NO reason.
I found out who the IP address was by using ip-lookup.net
Weird.
Sounds like a shady company.
Wow, is that so? You know I have been in dispute with them for a couple of months and two very strange things happened to me while I was on my computer that made me think SOL was watching my every move. The first thing was when I was researching them I happened to land on one of their site pages that I had never seen before. It had a bunch of different links, more than on any of their other sites(which are all basically the same). I noticed that a couple of those links had a weird hazy look to the lettering and they were hard to read. But, when I clicked on one, that LOOKED like it said reviews, it worked and took me to another page. What I thought had said reviews actually said rewards, as in contest rewards. But there were no contest or rewards. There were still all those other links I wanted to check out,but when I hit my back button, the page was totally different and just like the rest of their web pages…without the extra links. It just dissapeared! I never have been able to find that page again. Not even in my history, it just poofed, gone and simply dissapeared. That made me think they just didn’t want ME to be there. Then, a couple days later, I was filling out the Utah BBB complaint form when my computer screen said “shutting down” and it did. Just like that, everything turned off. I have a brand new computer, less than a year old. Never has it done that and I have no clue as to why it did!
Yes, a very shady company, one that everyone needs to be watching out for. I asked them how they got me on their mailing list…they wouldn’t give me an answer. Buyer beware, SOL coming to a town near YOU!
I have had a SOL account for about 3 years now and I have been satisfied with the product. My website, although not going to make me a millionaire, certainly pays for itself and then some every month. Being a webmaster requires time so if you are looking for a get rich quick scheme this is not for you. Like another comment on here said, owning your own business is hard work. JMHO
Gretchen,
First off, congradulations on your sucsess, and you are absolutely right about the work it takes to be a business owner. Second, SOL, would not still be doing what it does if it weren’t for poeple like yourself. They would not be able to sell something for very long, if it were just a bag of bullshit. They, also, would not be doing what they do if not for people like us, who are complaining.
People would not be complaining if it was just all about the hard work…as long as they had a site that did work. Or, if they had been told in the first place the truth about what works…and doesn’t work. SOL knows, and that is where the problem lies. They don’t care. They don’t care about your business, they only care about theirs. And that’s exactely why they TRICK as many people they can, and CON them into believing ANYBODY can sell ANYTHING using their software. And, that’s just not true…but people buy it and SOL thrives.
If it all were as good as they represent it is, then why not have a longer trial time. Or, some kind of guarantee? I’ll tell you why…because it isn’t and they know it. That is what people are complaining about, and rightfully so. SOL is making money off the ignorant, the desperate, the disillusioned, honest and CONNED people. That’s what makes them scandless and their presentation, for a product they sell, a scam.
They also are affiliated with companies that DO tell you there is a get rich quick way to do it…and for 3,000.00 to over 10 grand, they’ll show you how, as long as your willing to work super hard. Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but for that kind of money it’s not gonna be me who’s working super hard! Just another CON-company, scamming the same group of people. Discusting!
gretchen…please share your website address – I’d like to see what it looks like and maybe you have something I want/need!
Of course your not going to get her URL address, yet if it was true she would of happily posted it for traffic.
I’m on to you SOL
When it is to good to be true it is. A bunch of hucksters out to take your money.
Went to their seminar on Tues. I didn’t sign up for the upcoming full day. What kept me from signing up was the very high pressure salestalk. Most everyone there signed up. I haven’t sent in for the mp3 player yet. Probably won’t. When their sales rip off artist started to talk about the cost, I knew something was up because I know people that have setup websites for next to nothing.
Unfortunately for me I bought the fraud and I paying for it now in the amount of $6000 and to top it, I am now unemployed. I wish I discovered this forum earlier before I committed myself.
I to was scammed and now unemployed also. I feel for you. I wish there was something we could all do!!!!!!!
Thank you guys. i got a letter from these guys, and i knew something was up.
How many of you went to a workshop in kern county during october or november 2010? and are dissatisified?
I want to add my story to those already posted to caution anyone interested in SOL.
I’m from Asia and attended a SOL seminar in 2005. I paid >$7000 for 6 licences as the SOL representative, Devin Mills, assured me that I had all the time in the world to get started on my projects. I was then working full time, but needed to start up a website for a pet project. He also assured me that I could sell off my licences if I don’t need so many. Now I realised that I have to find my own buyer. And I’ve not even sure if SOL will honor a licence transfer.
Anyway, back to my story. When I found the time to get started on my SOL accounts, I found it much harder than expected. The sites were not very user-friendly then. So I put it on the back burner for a year.
I was shocked when I found myself locked out of my accounts due to “inactivity”. I contacted SOL via Chat and the rep was extremely friendly and helpful. I was told I had to renew my subscription. The form he subsequently sent me was confusing a there were a few options and I did not know which to choose. So i made the mistake of leaving it aside again, instead of following through.
When I was retrenched in 2008 I told myself I should not waste my investment with SOL so I contacted them again. This time they just directed me to their Renewals page where I realised I had to pay from $295 to get an answer from their customer support!!. I don’t even know what I am entitled to now that things are different from when I signed up in 2005. And they are not even talking about re-activating my licences.
If you are interested to start a website, my advice is to check out many other bigger and friendlier sites that seem to provide what I need ie domain name, hosting and web templates, for a fraction of what SOL charges.
As with any investment, do your research before paying your hard earned cash to someone you don’t know.
The technique is called “back-door” marketing.
You sell a product or service for a small amount usually
$ 29 or $ 59 , and when you find out you cant make any money with the product/service, the boiler room “closers” contact you in about 2 weeks and try to sell you a “Gold” or “Pro” package for $ 3,000 to $ 6,000 which will guarantee your success.
The “closers” make between 20% and 30% of the sale price sold to the suckers ( sorry for the terminology, but thats what they call the purchasers )
Sort of the same technique used by the lowlife, dirtbag TV preachers ( send me a $ 1,000 seed and the Lord will bless you with $ 100,000 )
Unfortunately, with so many desperate, unemployed people, these pond scum are probably doing a land office business.
The best way to approach anything in life is to assume that everything is a scam and you are about to get ripped off.
Sorry for being cynical…….but that’s reality.
Hello,
My husband and I went to a Stores Online seminar last year. We enjoyed the atmosphere, and ended up financing a package. Then we got home, and got butterflies over having contractually signing away our firstborn. We recognized that although we truly wanted the package, and wanted an online business we just could not afford it right now. We took advantage of the 3 day grace period. They tell you about this upfront, and give you three ways to contact them. We called, emailed and faxed the cancellation notice. Our young sales representative said he would call us the following Monday, and I’m so glad he didn’t. If he had we might have kept the package. We really wanted all they had to offer. We did examine the package good, and talked to several of the call center staff. I found them to be professional, and understandable. We did get some international call reps, but they spoke English. It did take us 3 wks to get our refund check for the down payment, but we did get it!
I’m not employed by Stores Online, and I’m not discounting anyone’s bad experience. I just wanted to add my decent experience among so many bad. It just seemed right to do that.
Cathy, that is great that you got your refund. The reason you were able to get it was because you were within the three days and you faxed, emailed and called. You had them every which way and SOL had no choice but to refund the contract.
If you do want a website check on line as there are numerous other legit companies that do websites or build it yourself (for free or cheap).
The main problem with SOL is that they never do build that website that we pay thousands of dollars for. They never do get it up and running. Time goes by and before you know it, it’s a year later and you still do not have an operating website but then SOL wants you to start paying them $29.99 per month “to continue to have access to your “6 purchased licensed sites” or you are locked out.
It is like just donating $7722.00 to the cause of “SOL”.
That is the problem in short. The reason I didn’t cancel was because I wanted to start an online business. They never built my site even though I provided all the information. Initially I didn’t feel I was being ripped off. I really believed they would build the site. I was wrong and I paid for it dearly.
I’m always glad when people refuse to get suckered in by SOL!
I went to a presentation today and got a free breakfeast. That’s about all that this is worth. Talk about B.S. these people are full of it. Look online and most if not all of the services they offer are free or damn near it. Think I go to the full day event in Va. Beach on Wensday the 9th of February at the Double Tree Hotel on Pavillion Dr. and warn the arriving guest. Don’t drop a bundle when with a little work you can get for almost free. Maybe copy some of these comments to pass out. See you there Mr. Bullshit Matt Davis
I do not belive most of what I see above. It is hard work people or everyone would be doing it
What don’t you believe, terry allen?? Of course it’s hard work, and SOL shouldn’t be saying how easy it is…that you don’t need a product to sell…that if someone can sell dental floss online, then anybody can sell (((ANYTHING!!)))…that they’ll build your first sight for free, but tell people after 90 days that it’s gonna cost (and they can’t always do things as easy as they say it is…so exspect for it to go past 90 days). And, they shouldn’t be denying people a refund since they are sooooooo inthusiastic about their product. Yeah, they got a ligitamit product for sale. It’s the way they go about selling it that sucks. You got something that good…guarantee it, geek!
Thank you to everyone on this site. I received an invitation to their luncheon yesterday. I am so thankful to have found this site before wasting time and money. Bless each of you.
I will be contacting the Attorney Generals Office in The State oif Virginia on Jan 31, 2011, my wife and stepdaughter came home from this first initial seminar without a notebook, paid the money and now scheduled to atttened the first work seminar in Charolltesville,VA, in Februrary.. I think the endorsements you see on here with Nancy, Jane and few others, that they are actually paid participants in the scam… why don’t you or they give their real names and phone number and provide copies of actual checks you have received. Do you know if you are apart of this awful, illegal scam, you are considered legal participants in a Federal Crime, state crime(s), in violations of the Internal Revenue and State Treasury’s laws on taxation and business, while, when and during the promotes, promotions, and your supports, supporting of the illegal sales and false disclosures across state lines. I’m checking on 01/31/2011 that these folks are licensed locally in the State and Commonwealth of Virginia, and have been paying their appropriate taxes. I’m going to the Post Office to ask for an investigation on this company and the people on here supporting them, because once again, these people are out of California, and conducting buisness on site in almost every state of the United States, and when you sale materials to individuals and ship it to them, using the US Postal Serivce, endorsing and supporting intra-state fraud and deception you are again apart of the operations. Why do you think so many compliants and warnings are out and posted againist this company…..and you are but a few of those having such succuess…by the way..do you have a buiness license for the state which you reside in and conducting business and are you paying your taxes to the State and IRS. I will be asking the United State Justice Department, to check the IP’s of these individuals, the company names, the websites-their IP’s, vs the real names, places, activities, business listings, vs the IP’s so founded, and as listed inthe US Fedral Registar’s for web services, and domains..WHOIS ( which I have already done and giving to the pertinent law enforcement agencies.. You might escape most of the state and Fedral law enforcment agnecies on this, but the US Postal service has a 100% fraud conviction rate and they do investigate and prosecute,,,,, all parties and their activities against the public…I will attempt to get this into as many local and state media concerns in Virginia, including TV and passing this information to the Commissioner of Revenues and Taxation for the Commonwealth of Virginia. I have been engage in business on the internet for 20 years or more, and I know personally that 99.9% of the products and services that onstores offers in free elsewhere to the public or if there is a cost(s) assoicated with it, it is very low, reasonable and affordable and they all provide disclosures of the services and products offerred.
Hey Jerry,
I live in VA too, and attended a 90 min lunch stores online seminar in Fredericksburg va in january, and was hoping to win a netbook (by being one of the first 50 to register). They said to check if I won, goto http://www.netbookrules.com, which i did, and i won! lol I called their shipping department and my free netbook will be shipped to me. I will be calling to checkup on the shipping today. Under
the Jan 24th week of winners, my name is listed http://www.storesonlinepro.com/winners.html
StoresOnline seems legit to me, as far as the 90min seminar and contest, but I dont have any info on their other expensive training programs, since I wanted the free lunch and netbook.
-Tim
By the way I agree with most of you on here. If you want something work for it, nothing is free in this world. I’m suprised at how many people read that Texas and other states have active investigations and proof of fraud, and now you have become smart enough to out-scam the scammers..its so easy to see why you would get scammed…because your attempt is just as bad as theirs. Believe me, they thrive on people like you!! Let me know when you get your freebie(s) and your free ride to wealth has been accomplished.. By the way, I’m going to print all of these posts and pass them out to everyone in Charlottesville at the Feb 2011 training event.
I just went and signed on for the $99 training to follow. After reading thru this site I just canceled my registration. I hope that they at least honor the 3 day cancellation.
i went to stores online with my girl friend we just wanted the free MP3 player and see if we get the shit laptop ($99 one) ha-ha but its a total scam and a half. once i mailed in for the MP3 it says on the box once i get it its a 1GB and then i put it on my computer its a 512mb but only reads 500mb after putting my 100 songs on it i go to try and listen to it. the thing doesn’t even turn on!!!! i took it apart to see what they did for hardware its all cheap material the only thing good with it was the welding done right. i disconnected the battery not open it just take wires off it smokes!!! fuck this shit! never will i go again nor will i ever recommended someone going to them. if you want to make money research on how to host your own web-server (website) that’s all they tell you here but u pay. or up the ass. or you can open a website for a simply $9.95 for the same shit stores online will give you they say they will give you 24/7 support yeah they will give you that support only to tell you when they will be open to help you!
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So i literally have been spending the last several days reading all of these posts after work. The reason being, is because i work at storesonline. And before you flame me, im a new hire still in training, during training, i have been told to basically do everything that i can for you all. I went on the phone today and spend 2 hours with some one who i could barely understand to just add products to a catagory, Which is fine, i use the same software you all use for training and i have put extra work into it after work hours and plan on having a site live soon. I just dont see what all the problems are. You buy the package to get a tun of benifits. Sure some of you have to meet deadlines for programming, but they give the deadline and we call you notices of when its expiring. Call us and well help. I really enjoy helping customers get their sites going.
I went to the initial seminar on Feb. 9th and signed on for the $99 training to follow. After reading thru this site, I will cancel my registration (by email, phone and registered mail). I hope they at least honor the 3 day cancellation.
Seth, you are admittedly, a new hire and I will tell you, you are naive. There are not hundreds, but thousands of people that have been ripped off by SOL, for millions of dollars. That is just a fact, period. We did call customer service, time after time after time.
I will speak of my personal experience. I am a professional who retired at 60 yrs old. I thought I would have an online business. I gathered all the research, got all my products, photos, etc. Hand fed them to my web builder at SOL and even after 14 months, my site was not operational. My site looked beautiful but I could not publish because no one there could get my shipping costs input into my website. Finally after 16 months SOL shut down my site (which still was not operation due to their incompetence) unless I agreed to pay the $29.95 hosting fee. So SOL made it unreasonable for me to allow THEM to continue trying to finish my site. I refused to pay more money are they per month when they were the ones who stressed how easy it is to build a site with their program. That was the reason I made the purchase to begin with. Well, how easy can it be if their own builders failed to complete my site. Instead I wasted all my time and money.
Thankfully, I was able to recoup some of my funds by joining in on one of the class action lawsuits. Although SOL refused my claim and I appealed. The judge ruled in my favor and I did received a partial refund. No where near the total of my outlay, but it was a victory against SOL.
SOL will eventually be closed down. Unfortunately for us, it takes a long time and lots of legal work to get it done. In the meantime they are sucking the money out of thousands of low and middle income people who were hoping to start a new business. Instead they lost their money and much more.
Good Luck to everyone who bought SOL. If you got your site up and running, may you be blessed with lots of business. If you did not get your business running, I say cut your losses and don’t pay them another cent.
Hi I just signed on with sol in Dec…they took my first payment this month. I wish I had researched their company before even going to the workshop. I would of saved alot of money and time. Ok now that I know what I know about the company what to I do now. I already gave them $700 dollors of my money. I work as a caregiver and I have always wanted to make money online. I know people make money online because I always shop online. The vultures out their that prey on people with a desire to make a better life is really sad.
Elaine, I hope you get your $99.00 back. If you are within the time frame you should get it back. If, however, you aren’t and you lose your $99.00, consider it a cheap lesson learned. Just think if you continued going to their “classes” you could have lost an additional $7000 to $30,000+. The amount depends on how much BS you
are willing to buy.
Good Luck.
If anybody ever wants to go to a confernce that offers that you will make money online, be cautious! I love those seminars, but have learned that to protect myself from the reoccuring charges I never give my bank debit card, nor do I pay cash. I go to Wal-Mart the day before and purchase the Wal-Mart debit card that has the Visa logo. I take that to the confernce and use that. The object is to not have any money on it for them to charge. I listen to what they have to say and deciede later after doing my research whether I should take the money to Wal-Mart and load it onto my card so I can pay the fees. If I do not like what I hear or I find bad reviews, I cancel the card and throw it in the trash. I protect myself the best way I have learned how. Even with the added fees of the debit card, I have saved myself the extra money by not being a victim of a scam. These people do not think twice about hitting our cards time and time again. I have learned my lesson in the past and have had to come up with a good counter action plan. This also works for purchasing items online. Just go to Wal-Mart and load only the amount of the purchase, make the transaction, cancel the card and throw it away. Sometimes they try to hit it again, which you can monitor online. Giving away your bank information would be a huge mistake. It only costs $4.95 to load money on the card……..much cheaper than a scammer would charge if you ever get hit by one.
I went to a seminar and then to another. They do take advantage of people to the tune of $6,000.00,
I do believe that the company is crooked. I programmed my on website with them for $29.95 a month and it does work.
I did not pay the $6,000.
went to stores online luncheon crap food then i was invited back for their workshop not worth the money or the gift of a 7″ notebook walmart sells better for the same price it cost me. When the guys found out we were looking up reviews on them in the workshop they asked us leave. not worth the money and they were preying on the elderly and peoples emotions and hopes of making money. beware! dont get sucked in. this was in mass.
I went to there seminar and continued to go along with it until I gave them a check for the 250 dollars and additionally the earlier money required. It is a total scam, they then continued to draw out another 250 using an electronic check without my permission, they said it was a computing error, however it happened 4 days after the original check was issued. They refuse to refund all of my invested money, this seems like a scam, and I see no reason what so ever to believe that this should be allowed to be legal, as for the people who made money off of this facade deserves a congrats. And those who were swindled deserve a refund.
Sincerely,
Matthew Fisher
Correction, there should be their.
well just got off the phone with one of the reps and still no refund on their double charge and to add insult to injury the guy laughed at me about my account being in the red. He categorically refused to transfer me or the phone number or email of a person who had the authority of giving me my money back. I have also learned from this man (Sterling) that there was a bunch of us that they did the double billing on. I would like to get a class action suit going for NY. This had to take place at their workshop on Feb.05,2011 at the hotel in Albany,NY
inar on Feb. 05
update i received my overcharge of $250.00 but not the bank overdraft of $28.00 like they promised they would and am still working on the rest of my investment and canceling my contract. I still say run from this company and look out for ripoffreport.com they are linked with storesonline and will not publish anything on their website however if you want to get ahold of storesonline to complain then go through them works better then the phonephone
straThere have already been lots of insightful opinions given above. I want to focus on one specific reader in my advice (Im an IS/IT Professional. My advice is for those of you who have already paid for an upcoming workshop (currently $99). 1. YOu may have a very hard time getting your $99 back if you cancel. IF you hvae enough self-control and determination not to get sucked in by the coming sales pressure then you might as well go and turn the tables on them ie glean as much info as you can for no additional outlay and then leave THEM hanging with no more of your money. 2. LEAVE YOUR CARDS AND CHECKBOOK AT HOME! DOnt subject yourself to the possibility of being pressured into making an impulse buy and then being stuck fighting with them to honor 3-day-remorse-laws. 3. Take notes of key words and concepts for later further study on your own. One value that this meeting can bring is helping the brand new know where to start. SEO, linking, affiliates, eBay, Social Network Marketing, etc are valid concepts but you will learn more about them elsewhere. The main goal of SOL is sales; no doubt abouot it!!! Use the one-day workshop as an internal brainstorming session. Take good notes of ideas for later research. The public library has good info (or you can search Amazon) and there are actually some good info online. Check out Google.com WebMaster Central. Also check out wilsonweb.com or Google Web Marketing Today for Dr Wilson’s sites. Lots of SOLID free info there….and yes, he makes a living selling books but they are WORTH IT and he offers lots of free info as well!! 4. Just smile at the presenters and consultants at the workshop and dont let on that you have made up your mind not to buy (dont worry as long as your checkbook and CC is far away) otherwise they will likely shut down on you. Hey ! You have paid $99; fish for all the info you can! Just ignore all the sales hype and listen for those key concenpts to write down and take with you. When you have gotten all the info you can and it is over, then you can tip your hat, smile and say “Im gone.” Let them be rude from that point; you will already be out the door! 5. DONT give them bank routing number, CC#, or SS#! 6. DOnt be insulted by the DUmmies series at your local library, bookstore, or Amazon.com. The name may be unfortunate but you often can learn quite a bit about e-commerce, eBay, and web-site building from them! 7. Seriously consider staying with the tried and proven eBay. You dont have to limit it to selling spare trinkets around the house; you can actually set up an online store; that and using PayPal for your transactions will be safer and save you lots of investment dollars. Best wishes!
As far as I know I attended the first seminar it wasn’t that bad. Later I had to pay 99 dollars for the second seminar thought it was a good deal just to learn something new a free lunch and notebook. However, what I had found odd was that they said the seminar would be 99 and they compared it to some other companies. Showing that attending somebody elses seminar would be around 6000 dollars. The second one they wanted that 6000 dollars and wanted everybody to wait a couple more weeks to get started. The people I talked to at the workshop I don’t know but it seemed dishonest. One guy said if somebody made a mistake would you take their money. He said Hell YES!!!!!
I just felt that it was a bit dishonest and they were asking too much. I did enjoy the lunch the notebook was alright they are like everybody else in this world GReEDY!
One lady said” looks like I can’t buy anything for a month I’m gonna have to eat snaCKS ! That’s how the customers feel after they invest. All your gonna learn is how to find out what people are searching for. Basically you pay 6000 for them to tell you all this. Good LUCK! I’m going to the bank to make sure they don’t try to use my credit card information. Like I said they seemed dishonest.
We went to the 2/5/2011 seminar in New hampshire, but had done our research before attending. We decided that the research we had done, paid off and did not participate in future seminars. However, we did submit our card for the MP3 players they promised.
Here’s the rub: on the invitation, SOL (StoresOnline, not $hit Out of Luck, however, it seems to be an appripo acronym) show a picture of an [iPod] 16GB style MP3 player. Now, we knew there was no way SOL would send along free [iPod] 16GB players and were ready to settle for some other comparable manufacturer.
We got our MP3 players the other day in the mail. The ba$tards sent the equivalent of the [iPod] Nano!! What a bunch of porkers!!
These people are bad news all the way around! SOL is the perfect name for them since anyone who works with them will certainly be SOL in the long run!
1st-The BBB is a private company. They just rate companies. They have no authority to do anything about any company.
2ndly- SOL just settled out of court in Tenn on a Class Action suit for 7.6 MILLION DOLLARS. http://www.chrismalta.com/blog/?p=151
Do some research. I think you all can still get in on the suit.
SOL has been flooding You Tube with paid actors posing as clients that are happy with SOL and all the money they are making and what a wonderful company they are, BLAH BLAH BLAH…
DON’T BUY IT
They have also been posting on numberous review sites, such as this one, as to which, we joined and what a great company they are and you guys didn’t work their program properly, BLAH BLAH BLAH…
People, do your research, Google, call your Att. Generals Office, BBB, ect.
Read the complaints. HUNDREDS OF THEM.
Find out for yourself that this company has been around before (SkyMall.com, ect.) and will be back as another company once this one (SOL) is shut down.
I’m surprised at all the negative reviews considering me and my wife were with three different web building/hosting companies prior to being with stores online all of which were way too hard to maintain our selves. The customer service has been very helpful and the software has been a breeze to work with after the first couple of weeks. Anyone who says they cant build/maintain their own website using storesonline software is either mentally challenged or lacks common sense. Thanks stores online for helping me be able to support my family. As cheesy as that sounds that’s the truth. If anyone is questioning going with storesonline you should check it out yourself by going to one of the seminars instead of listening to a bunch of incompitant people who don’t know how to learn or work hard enough to use the simple software storesonline has to offer.
Really, Salvatore. You are making money with a SOL website. If so, you may be one of a FEW certainly in the minority. When did you start your website and how much money have you made? Are you a corporation or sole proprietor? What is the name of your website so we can all go there to check out your great site.
You are in denial if you think nine attorney generals from different states have cases against SOL. I personally received a court ordered partial refund from SOL strictly because of their incompetence in getting my website up and running. The court agreed how difficult their website is to use and how it is not compatible with other programs even though they say it is.
For you to write such a glowing paragraph you may just be one of their “paid” success stories or employees etc, etc, etc.
Your statements do not hold water and are meaningless. You cannot even spell the word incompentent so I doubt you are successful in business.
Really, Alan? I think it’s interesting that you are so quick to attack someone who’s opinion differs from yours, and viciously too I might add. How does it effect you that Salvatore has had a good experience with Stores Online? Do you talk to your wife and children like that? Or maybe they aren’t allowed to express their opinions around you.
It sounds like you got some money back from some sort of legal action. Good for you, and yet you still feel the need to slander others (oops, I don’t want you to come back at me with any errors in my post, let me make a correction. In print its called libel) in some misguided attempt to feel better about making what you consider to be a stupid decision. So by extension, those that made the same decision are therefore marginalized and stupid.
Do you consider yourself to be weak minded I wonder, since you obviously were taken advantage of by a big, bad, company who simply offered a product that you chose to purchase?
In your own words, “your statements do not hold water and are meaningless.” You cannot even use punctuation properly, for example, using a question mark instead of a period after Salvatore’s name. “I doubt you are successful in business.”
I don’t recall that Salvatore ever said, and I have re-read his statement, that everyone including the Attorney Generals were wrong for pursuing action against Stores Online. You however, seem to like to take precise facts and generalize them to bolster your claims and soothe your bruised ego. Do me a favor…when you read this and get angry…don’t do take it out on anyone…for once be a man.
Nick, don’t get so high and mighty. The point was that Salvatore sounds like another of those SOL employees who come onto this site. It happens often.
I do not consider myself to be weak minded. This is not a pissing contest so please conduct yourself as an adult.
Enough already.
This site is only to show the public what SOL does when it conducts its business. The bottom line is that it has a multitude of legal problems and lawsuits pending and settled. One of which I received a settlement from their wrongdoing.
I do find it interesting that the so called successful story people of SOL hardly ever provide their websites and any details of their financial gain.
Due to Stores Online not assisting me with a website after I called them numerous times, my credit rating is poor. I refused to pay because I did not receive help promised at the seminars, and they went after me and ruined my credit. Since I was a customer, I wonder why all of us were not notified as soon as a lawsuit was started. A settlement for me would be my money back and a note to all credit agencies informing them the debt should be removed from my reports.
Yep, By Golly you sure showed them a thing or 2, you messed up your own credit rating just to spite SOL. That makes a lot of sense and it also shows the average mentality of the folks that whine in this room.
I agree, its amazing what stopping payment on a contractual agreement will get you. Poor Janice, “they went after” her for not making finance payments she agreed to…sigh… Janice let me know if you ever find a company that will not post to your credit if you agree to pay and then don’t. I am sure that most people in this room would love to go take advantage of that company. Judging from the talk I read on the free mp3 players, netbooks, and sandwiches, a lot of people seem to be upset that they went to these meetings just for the free stuff and then are surprised that the free gift is not very costly…hmmm…surprise Stores Online is not going to invest money where there is no return. Which is most of the people here…
The is scam is being run right now in Lancaster, PA. at Lancaster Marriott At Penn Square Starting March 7th 6pm for three days. then after you buy in $139. Your invited to a Workshop tues. March 22 2011, 8:30-5pm at Lancaster Host Resort & Conference Center, Lancaster, PA Bring alot of money $3900. Plus! there is no first 50 callers recieve Netbook computer & And No free MP3 Players for those that attend the conference! storesonline Also know as imergent is being investigating across serveral states from Texas to the East coast…
“Matt” did 13 seminars in SE PA. I went to the one today in Harrisburg. It was the same offer as yours, Salty.
He said that there would be a Q&A at the end. He lied. I wanted to know about their drop shippers’ associations, since the ones they had last time I looked at them were all crap (slow deliveries, no returns for defective merchandise, poor customer service, high price points, etc.) I first asked one of the flunkies that was taking people’s information and $139. He tried to snow me and then admitted he didn’t know anything about the drop shippers. After a wait, I was finally able to ask “Matt.” He tried to skirt the question, telling me that they didn’t matter and I could find a drop shipper anywhere. Then he accused me of coming to the seminar to harass the company. Finally he walked away without answering.
High pressure sales tactics, lying, not actually answering legitimate concerns and down right rude are not characteristics of a company where I’d do business. I’m just sorry that I didn’t convince any of the sheep signing up to walk away from the slaughter.
Why do people need to pay so much money to build a website and do SEO? Why do you pay such fees- website building can be learned in a few hours from a book or good website, seo in a few more. I attended their “free dinner” (a lousy sandwich lol)- they charge 30 a month for voip? Magic Jack is 20 per year. Just like real estate and trading, money can be made from the internet, but people package up common information and or services and sell them way over what they should cost. Just my humble opinion. Mike
I have received an invitation by mail and decided to do a research in regards to the conference. I’m glad that I landed on this page. After reading all the comments and reviews, there is no way in the world that I’m going to attend this conference. My husband is a web developer and has his own clients, which they loved him very much because he doesn’t scam people and his price is really affordable especially for the business starters. I feel bad for the people that was victimized by these money hungry scumbags!!!
Eve, my name is David. I also was lured into their BS & I went to the workshop just to get the notebook.I got the little piece of crap manufsctured in “92″.But my reason for leaving this comment is,you mentioned your husband is web developer.I’m curios as to if you or he can get in touch with me to let me know what he would charge me? I’m 1 of those U refer to & need some assistnce in getting one up & running.You can drop me a line @ davidnsukie@gmail.com
I went to the first one, and the second one, I feel really stupid for not doing a search for the name on the net. I did not pay for the upgrade they only got me for 99$. I did get the “netbook” and its crap, will not power on. and its not a real netbook at all, its a little mini netbook, with a 300 MHz cpu, and 2gig HD. and yes they did try to get us to buy either the silver or platinum upgrade. but got lost when we told them we have the site up and running, and why would we pay 6000$ for the upgrade when we could find the “tools” they are offering online free. they did not answer any questions, even the guy who did all the talking did not have a website with them. They are a scam, DO NOT BUY INTO THEM, sol is the right name for them.
Wow! I just stumbled across this web site AFTER I attended a seminar in South Jersey. I am SO glad that I did not buy into their products. There were over 60 people who attended the seminar and 75% of them bought into this … company. I spoke with two of the women who were sitting with me, and I told them that they can build a web site much cheaper than theirs, and get into some affiliate programs as well as drop shipping programs WITHOUT spending $6000. GoDaddy.com only charges about $4.99/month for a web site and $11.99 for a domain name. This is one time I’m glad my debit card wasn’t working and I’m broke! HAHAHAHA
Not liking this at all, thought I might get some good info after paying $139 for the day training. Now it seems like many people hate them and fro probably good reasons, and I’m wondering if the info I’d get would be worth going, or if I could get the same info on the web or in a book. The product I plan on selling – a musical instruction DVDs is 2 yrs away from being online.
Also if I decide to not go, how to cancel? I saw a allusion to a cancel notice to full out but didn’t see anything i my packet.
Good luck everyone else.
Tom
Tom, R U still in need of info to cancel ? If so drop me a line & I can get for U?
DavnTaz,
Thank you so much for taking the time to follow up with me. I did get info and cancelled by the 3rd business day.
Hopefully they will refund my money. My appreciation and thanks to you and everyone else who gave the heads up on this shady company by sharing their unfortunate experiences.
P.S. I sent a cancellation email and a fax so hopefully that will do the trick. Thanks again.
Just went to seminar last night in rockaway nj. My husband saw it was a scam from the moment Bob opened his mouth. He’s a great talker but does not bring any true facts with him. DON’T BUY ANYTHING!!!!!!!!! There are legal websites builders out there for you. Do a background check on this company before you do anything!
There is no such thing as a get rich quick scheme. I don’t care what kind of technology solution you choose, it takes work, and lots of it, to make a business run successfully!
I’ve been a StoresOnline customer for 4 years and am very satisfied with their products and service (most of the time). It took a year of working a regular day job and working on our websites every afternoon/evening/weekend to really get things going.
But it’s been my husband’s and my only income for the past 3 years.
Guess what. It you want to be successfully self-employed, it takes some long-term commitment and major effort.
So stop your whining if your plan to become financially independent didn’t work out after the first week, month, or even the first year, and then you just gave up. It’s not going to get any easier. Just realize you don’t have it in you and go back to being satisfied with working for the man. At least there you’ll have health insurance and scheduled lunch breaks.
I agree, I’ve been working with them for a year now and I have been getting good results. It takes work to get going and accomplish your goals. Their software is not cheap but it does make publishing a lot easier than manual coding. They never promised me anything they haven’t delivered.
Storesonline do work, my http://www.balsawoodinc.com website has made hundreds of thousads. It is not magic button, you have to work it and if you do, this 6K expense was paidoff in less than few month. I love it.
I went to their seminars three years ago. I was shocked at the cost and wished they would offer one website in the package, not two. But, I went ahead and made the purchase. It took me three months to get my website up and running. It was a tremendous amount of work, but any job done well takes hard work. I don’t do half of what they recommend a person do in order to make sales, no ad words, no links, not a lot of marketing, etc. But I get lots of visitors and I am making good sales. I enclose business cards with each order and go the extra mile with packaging and adding personal touches like a hand written Thank You on the invoice and I send an inexpensive free gift with each order. I believe word of mouth is my best advertising. Once I retire from my real job, I will devote all my energies to promoting my website properly. I did get lots of phone calls in the beginning wanting me to purchase additional products to make my website better, I simply said NO! I have gotten great online help when I needed it, and when I was totally confused on how to do a particular thing like shipping rules, the rep actually did it for me and then I took time later to understand how it was done. I have not had any problems and don’t have any complaints other than the absurd up front cost and I think an individual should be offered ONE website, not two. Anyone considering a website should understand it is NOT quick and easy money..you can’t just sit back and think Stores Online will do all of the work for you. I made the investment, I have done the hard work, and now I am making the money. I do wish they would hire Americans here in America to work their support lines though. All in all, I have no real complaints and the bottom line is YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO WORK AT YOUR WEBSITE, you will get back what you put into it.
I attended the meeting with my daughter in Jan. 2011 still havnt received free mp3 player. Whos the person responsible for making sure these are mailed out ?? Is this a lie just to get people there as paper states no purchase nessasary.I would like a reply from storesonline or just send two one for each of us.
I attended a meeting here in my home town of Medford, Oregon last night, I was invited via mail with ticket’s for two, so I thought what the heck let’s see what these people have to offer or what kind of deal they where here to sell. First off I will say the food was disgusting and as for the freebies I went knowing that this is something that people who attended would not ever get or if they did it would be some dollar store type thing. I sat through this meeting jotting down questions I would have at the end of the session and when the time came for me to ask my question’s the man (mike) if that’s his real name seemed very offended by my question’s and looked at me like I was dumb. I have a friend that did this same type of thing with a company known as APS (Automatic Profit System) she paid just over 200.00 for their program which offered all the same things that this company claims to offer, video tutorials step by step to set up your own website and all the tools needed to get started and up and running in a day or two, she is not computer literate so she asked for my help, it didn’t take me long before I advised her the get her money back! it was not easy to understand and yes it would require a lot of time and effort and that was no problem, the problem was more that the system was outdated, some of the components came with viruses there was not help from customer service unless she wanted to pay and additional 299.00 for this service and most of the programs they tell you to download she would have to pay for those as well, bottom line here is I asked SOL about this and how they compare to this business, they acted like they didn’t know what I was talking about, APS is there competition, I’m sure they know about this internet marketing company, all this man was interested in was getting me to give him more money 139.00 to attend a second meeting, he spent more time ignoring me, dancing around my question and asking me if I was going to pay the money then he did trying to answer my questions. I’m glad we did not get scammed by these people and I feel very bad about the people of my community that did get scammed. They are having more meeting’s here today and tomorrow and I feel the need to go save those people from being ripped off. Fact is it only cost my friend 4.95 per month with host gator which by the way comes with every tool needed to build your web site and she had a niche, so she is slowly but surely making money on her own and as her business grows so will her site, to get traffic and be on top with search engines she pays a very small fee for this and some are free, so people it is easy and cheap if not free, it does take some time, effort and maybe a niche to start out but it is possible to do it yourself without going broke on these scam artist organizations. Any Idea you make have can be put out there on your website. Stay away from SOL and make sure you look up what other names they may have used prior to SOL, if you do your research you will find that these types of organizations change their names every time they get discovered that they are a SCAM. best of luck to all.
I looked this up after someone here suggested it, WOW and this isn’t all of the story, why does our government allow organizations like this??
California Attorney General Jerry Brown and Ventura County District Attorney Greg Totten have settled a case brought against two Orem, Utah-based companies accused of violating consumer protection laws that have taken advantage of at least 100 people in Ventura County.
The settlement required the companies, iMergent Inc. and its subsidiary, StoresOnline Inc., to write an $850,000 check to the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office, with $350,000 in restitution going to victims statewide, $250,000 in civil penalties to the DA, and $250,000 in civil penalties and legal fees to the attorney general.
iMergent and StoresOnline have been sued twice by Brown and Totten, and they have been banned from doing business in California since 2007.
According to prosecutors, the companies preyed on senior citizens by offering free lunches and a gift to attend a seminar where sales people sold them home-based Internet businesses for between $2,700 and $6,000. The sales people at the seminars made claims that the sites would bring massive profits selling just about anything.
“There was one example of a merchant who sold wheat grass kits that included a little patch of dirt and some seeds, and that was sort of spun into the statement that if this person can sell dirt and some seeds, what can you sell on the Internet?” Senior Deputy District Attorney Mitchell Disney said, “Then the audience responds in unison: ‘Anything!’ ”
The presentations generate a lot of enthusiasm, Disney said, and are coupled with the push that the companies are “in town only today.”
Two seminars conducted in Ventura in 2003 attracted 61 consumers who purchased Web sites at a cost of $4,700 to $4,900, court records show. But 24 of the 27 interviewed by the DA’s office were unable to activate any Web sites and the remaining three generated less than $1,000 in sales.
Disney said seminars conducted in Ventura County were attended by between 60 and 150 people, with 20 to 25 percent of the attendees buying services.
It’s highly likely that there are people who’ve lost money that haven’t complained yet, according to Disney.
“There are people we don’t know about,” he said. “That’s a given.”
The case that settled last week was the second one prosecutors brought against the companies that involved violations of the California Seller Assisted Marketing Plan Act, or SAMP. The law, enacted in 1978, protects inexperienced and unsophisticated buyers by requiring sellers of small business opportunities to register with the Attorney General’s Office and following the attorney general’s procedures.
In 2006, prosecutors settled the first suit for $1.2 million in restitution and costs, and the companies were banned from selling until they complied with the SAMP law and made necessary disclosures to the attorney general.
But 10 months after the settlement was entered in court, the companies were back doing the same thing, so prosecutors went to court again.
Read more: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2009/mar/17/firms-that-preyed-on-seniors-settle-suit-for/#ixzz1HMTUBV2b
- vcstar.com
I know how the system works and if you work hard on it, you’ll get something in return, not because you purchased the package, you will be getting money doing NOTHING. You need to work hard on marketing, search engines are not idiot to put you on top search result if you don’t work on your marketing…thats how it works. Some people do not listen to customer service because they think they know what is best? so why called CSR then? if you know what to do. Listen, follow and you’ll be successful plus additional patience, if you are irate, its so impossible for you to be successful with this kind of business.
I went to the one in AC drunk ate a FINE Sandwhich at da Chelsea
refused to give them money that computer look like Shizzle my nizzle
watched these suckas get pied pipered in Dat Preacher was good but i smarter than he what he from Utah Mormon Homeslice gots like 3 wives probably try to sell them Sto’s online too If I was Frank in American Gangster During intermission I would demand 20% ,
MY MAN!. My one Homie tryin to sell Crack on Sto’s online. If he dont smoke it all that is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
READ THIS IF YOU EVER EVEN THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO MOVE YOUR WEBSITE FROM STORESONLINE TO ANOTHER SERVER:
If I could give SOL a zero rating, I would. Yes, you an use SOL to get an internet presence and even sell some things. THAT’S NOT THE ISSUE. The issue comes when you have a problem and need assistance. The issue comes if you ever want to move your internet store to another server. SOL refuses to give you your unique IP address, they refuse to allow you to download the files that you paid thousands of dollars for so that you can transfer your domain, and likely as not, they may even disallow us from using our domain name with our new website and server. We have been paying SOL for seven years for their service, plus the fee we paid for the website in the first place. In addition, their email service for us has not been functioning properly for at least six months, and each “fix” creates a worse problem.
We use our website to gain foot traffic to our brick-and-mortar. We are able to do that because we do a lot of internet and print advertising and SEO. But the lack of service from SOL has prompted us to move to a local server who has been maintaining my personal e-commerce website since 2002. I get immediate responses to my emails and my phone calls are returned within an hour with this local provider. You cannot even get to a supervisor or anyone in Utah with SOL to get your problems addressed, and they are doing everything in their power to scotch my migration to another server, against ICAAD regulations. In fact, the MOMENT…no, the SECOND…I tried to download my SOL files (with SOL’s instructions), my website went down. MY WEBSITE NOW POINTS TO STORESONLINE HOME PAGE, AND NO ONE CAN ACCESS MY SITE. This despite the fact that I just, on March 21, paid for another month’s web hosting. We are not inexperienced, stupid, dumb, or otherwise blind to the amount of work a website requires. But we DO expect to get the tools we paid for, including SUPPORT.
RUN, DON’T WALK, AWAY FROM STORESONLINE IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT A PROFESSIONAL PRESENCE ON THE NET AND IF YOU WANT A REASONABLE ASSURANCE OF TECHNICAL SUPPORT DURING THE LIFE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Wow! I am very surprised at how much negative responses there are about storesonline. I am very new with storesonline, about 4 months. My website is already published but still has alot of work work to go. Its been published for about 1 month and I have not seen one hit. I was kinda epecting this since I understand I have to work at marketing and advertising. BUT I FEEL THAT STORESONLINE WAS VERY MISLEADING. I too have financed $6000 for a platinum package that was to include EVERTHING to get up and running easily. Not true, I find out I still need to puchase a merchant accout, web building, markting tools, domain name. Thats just a short list but the merchant accout was the biggest. Ive had numerous companies calling telling me I need thier services to get up and running “Quicker”, they wanna charge about $2000-$8000. Point is that there are lots of “other” fees they dont tell you about and paint it so pretty. I got a call yesterday from a National Recover Corporation about getting my money back and thts how I was liked to this blog. I want to know how they even got my info to contact me and if they have contacted any one else. Thier website is bizopcops.com. They want me to join class action suit agaist storesonline and I am looking into it. Just do your research before giving Storesonline your money, I wish I would have.
Thank you for the advise, I went to a seminar tonight and almost got sucked it to one of their promotions. I am sorry this happened to you.
Where to begin? There is so much wrong with this company! As a webmaster in my own right, I did not see any advantages to SOL. I found customer service downright rude. They play to the fact that people want to do it right, and are willing to pay for it…Just that they make you feel really cheap and worthless if you don’t ‘upgrade’. Yeah, lots of “add ons”!! Pretty much to the tune of 50,000. in credit card debt thanks very much.and they make you believe you’re in an elite class when all they are doing is ensuring they can keep their hands in your pocket. The web builder is horrible to work with! Sure they trot out their successful people…I’ll bet there are not that many!
Don’t waste your time going to the seminar the lunch isn’t worth it. We are struggling now to get out of this debt. Run far and fast away from the crooks! I wish someone had told me that! I never had a ‘good’ feeling but my husband really wanted this to work. I haven’t the heart to tell him you can’t make a silk purse out of sows ear!
As for working at my website, I’m doing alright and it certainly doesn’t cost anywhere near $40/month (as of two years ago) to register with them and use their web builder, etc. Yep, everything is proprietary.. and they just suck, and suck at your wallet until there is nothing left. They think they are above the law and continue to call me when I’ve given them a piece of my mind. (Got news for them though, if they call one more time, I’m turning them over to the FTC and anyone else I can think of. – I wrote and revoked any permissions implied or given for them to contact me.) Yeah, I really hope they feel ‘lucky’ and call again. Yeah, would love to seem them put out of business. Horrible, horrible company. Wish we had never accepted that ‘invitation’. I cannot even begin to tell you how much loathing I have for them!